Alternative · Poe
A Poe alternative that counts in messages, not points
Poe is Quora's app for chatting with many AI models and bots. Poe's $19.99 plan lists 660,000 points a month (source below). llmwise counts in messages instead: each model's count, like up to 31 Claude Fable 5.1 or up to 125 GPT-6 Sol messages a month on Pro, sits by the send button before you send.
Poe's points, as of September 25, 2026
Poe's plans page lists 660,000 points a month for its $19.99-a-month plan ($199.99 a year).
Checked : Poe's subscription plans.
What affects a count
llmwise shows the model's message price before you send. These are the long-chat rules and tool charges to account for.
Long chats: once the conversation sent to the model passes 64k tokens, each reply counts as 2; past 128k, as 4; past 200k the chat is full. The message box says so before you send.
On a paid plan, each web search counts as one more message of the model in use.
A research report counts as 15 Claude Haiku 4.5 messages (Standard) or 75 Claude Haiku 4.5 messages (Deep), and an image from 2 Claude Haiku 4.5 messages an image, by the image model picked.
Other paid tools, such as code runs, show what they count as before they run.
What you might be looking for
The newest models, counted plainly
Claude Fable 5.1 and GPT-6 Astra (up to 31 messages a month each on Pro), Claude Opus 5.5 (up to 62) and GPT-6 Sol (up to 125), each with its own count, from one allowance you can mix.
See which model answered and what it cost
Reply length and reasoning don't increase the model's message price. Paid tools add their stated charges. If Anthropic's safety system switches to a cheaper Claude model, the charge can go down: the reply names the model that answered and shows its price.
One memory for every model
Memory (up to 100 notes on a paid plan) and projects are shared by every model, so switching models doesn't mean explaining yourself again.
More than one company's models
Ask Claude, GPT, Gemini, DeepSeek, Grok, Kimi, GLM, or Mistral in one chat, and switch models whenever a question calls for it. The next model sees the whole conversation.
The models in llmwise
Pick a model for each message; the badge shows how many messages Pro gets on it.
Claude by Anthropic
- Claude Fable 5.131/mo on Pro
- Claude Opus 5.562/mo on Pro
- Claude Sonnet 5.5125/mo on Pro
- Claude Sonnet 5125/mo on Pro
- Claude Haiku 4.5250/mo on Pro
- Claude Haiku 5.560/day on Pro
GPT by OpenAI
- GPT-6 Astra31/mo on Pro
- GPT-6.1 Sol125/mo on Pro
- GPT-6 Sol125/mo on Pro
- GPT-6 Luna60/day on Pro
Gemini by Google
- Gemini 4 Argon62/mo on Pro
- Gemini 3.1 Pro (preview)125/mo on Pro
- Gemini 3.8 Flash250/mo on Pro
DeepSeek by DeepSeek
- DeepSeek V4 Pro250/mo on Pro
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash60/day on Pro
Grok by xAI
- Grok 4.7250/mo on Pro
Kimi by Moonshot
- Kimi K3125/mo on Pro
GLM by Z.ai
- GLM 5.3250/mo on Pro
- GLM 5.3 Flash60/day on Pro
Mistral by Mistral
- Mistral Large 4250/mo on Pro
What else is in the chat
Files
Attach PDFs (up to 100 pages), images and text files, up to 10 a message.
Documents
Drafts, code and tables open beside the chat as documents that keep every version; text downloads as PDF, Word or Markdown, tables as Excel or CSV.
Small apps
Ask for a calculator or a small tool and it runs live as an HTML app in the side panel.
Web search
Answers can search the web and cite their sources. On Free, web search works inside your 5 trial messages; on a paid plan each search counts as one more message of the model in use.
Personas and skills
Save instructions as a persona with its own default model, or add skills the model can use.
Paid-plan tools
On Pro and higher plans: research reports (counting as 15 Claude Haiku 4.5 messages Standard, 75 Claude Haiku 4.5 messages Deep), code runs in a sandbox (1 Claude Haiku 4.5 message a run), backend apps (5 Claude Haiku 4.5 messages per started 10 minutes) and MCP servers. Images are made in Create, on every plan.
Plans
Monthly, cancel anytime. A message's price is fixed before you send it.
| Plan | Price | Everyday models | A month on the other models |
|---|---|---|---|
| Free | $0 | A one-time trial of 5 messages on Claude Haiku 5.5 | None: the other models are on paid plans |
| Plus | $10 a month + applicable tax, shown before you pay | 30 a day | 31 messages on Claude Opus 5.5 or Gemini 4 Argon; 62 on Claude Sonnet 5.5-class models; or 125 on Claude Haiku 4.5-class models |
| Pro | $20 a month + applicable tax, shown before you pay | 60 a day | 31 messages on Claude Fable 5.1 or GPT-6 Astra; 62 on Claude Opus 5.5 or Gemini 4 Argon; 125 on Claude Sonnet 5.5-class models; or 250 on Claude Haiku 4.5-class models |
| Max | $50 a month + applicable tax, shown before you pay | 120 a day | 100 messages on Claude Fable 5.1 or GPT-6 Astra; 200 on Claude Opus 5.5 or Gemini 4 Argon; 400 on Claude Sonnet 5.5-class models; or 800 on Claude Haiku 4.5-class models |
| Ultra | $100 a month + applicable tax, shown before you pay | 200 a day | 225 messages on Claude Fable 5.1 or GPT-6 Astra; 450 on Claude Opus 5.5 or Gemini 4 Argon; 900 on Claude Sonnet 5.5-class models; or 1,800 on Claude Haiku 4.5-class models |
| Studio | $200 a month + applicable tax, shown before you pay | 200 a day | 500 messages on Claude Fable 5.1 or GPT-6 Astra; 1,000 on Claude Opus 5.5 or Gemini 4 Argon; 2,000 on Claude Sonnet 5.5-class models; or 4,000 on Claude Haiku 4.5-class models |
Every limit is published. Paid plans also have a monthly fair-use limit on AI cost: Plus $3.75, Pro $7.50, Max $20, Ultra $42, Studio $85. Using every message on your plan at typical sizes stays under it; very large messages and heavy research use it faster. Every limit, explained.
Every model's price per message is on the pricing page.
Switching from Poe
Sign in with your email: we send a link, there's no password to set.
Pick a model per message; the picker shows how many messages you have left on each before you send.
Recreate the bots you rely on as personas: instructions plus a default model.
Attach the files you'd have uploaded before: PDFs, images and text files.
When llmwise isn't the right fit
If you want a directory of community-made bots, llmwise isn't that: it's a curated set of models and a handful of personas.
Questions
How do llmwise's messages compare with Poe's points?
They aren't the same thing, so there's no exchange rate: Poe prices messages in points, while llmwise shows each model's count in messages, fixed when you send. Where a count changes (a long chat), the message box says so before you send.
Can I bring my Poe chats or bots?
No, there's no importer. Start a new chat, and paste in anything you want to carry over.
Does llmwise have bots?
Personas are the closest thing: a name, instructions and a default model. llmwise comes with a few, like Writer, Coder and Tutor, and you can make your own.
Is llmwise free?
To try it: Free is a one-time trial of 5 messages on Claude Haiku 5.5, with no card. It doesn't refill; paid plans add more models (Pro and higher plans, every model), everyday messages every day and a monthly allowance for the rest.
Claude, GPT, Gemini, DeepSeek, Grok, Kimi, GLM, and Mistral, in one chat.
See what a message costs before you send it. Free is 5 messages to try; sign in with an email link, no password or card.