Model vs model
Gemini 3.8 Flash vs Grok 4.7
Gemini 3.8 Flash and Grok 4.7 are both in llmwise. What each gets on every plan, what it reads, how it's served and what happens when its provider fails, from the catalog and the code that runs them.
Model prices and specs checked against OpenRouter's Gemini 3.8 Flash page, OpenRouter's Grok 4.7 page. Updated .
Short answer
They cost the same in llmwise: up to 250 messages a month on Pro on either. Beyond that, they read the same files and neither is easier to try. In our test runs, Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 46 of the 50 prompts both answered and Grok 4.7 47; 3 prompts split them, most on data analysis (4 to 5).
Gemini 3.8 Flash vs Grok 4.7, prompt by prompt
Every prompt Gemini 3.8 Flash and Grok 4.7 both answered, compared directly, their biggest differences first. One run each, through OpenRouter: a wait depends on the provider and the load that day, so a lead under 10% counts as close.
Of the 50 prompts both answered, both passed 45, only Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 1, only Grok 4.7 passed 2, and neither passed 2. Gemini 3.8 Flash answered sooner on 33 of the 50 and Grok 4.7 on 14; the rest were within 10% of each other. The 50 replies cost $0.0644 on Gemini 3.8 Flash and $0.3875 on Grok 4.7: 6.0× less on Gemini 3.8 Flash.
The 3 prompts only one of Gemini 3.8 Flash and Grok 4.7 passed
A product announcement with five rules (writing): Grok 4.7 passed and Gemini 3.8 Flash didn't. Gemini 3.8 Flash: Graded 3.7 of 5 on average (lowest 3). Grok 4.7: Graded 4.0 of 5 on average (lowest 3).
Argue both sides of free buses (writing): Gemini 3.8 Flash passed and Grok 4.7 didn't. Gemini 3.8 Flash: Graded 4.3 of 5 on average (lowest 4). Grok 4.7: Graded 4.7 of 5 on average (lowest 4); but a paragraph of 100 words, over the 90 allowed.
Correlation between ad spend and sign-ups (data analysis): Grok 4.7 passed and Gemini 3.8 Flash didn't. Gemini 3.8 Flash: Final answer 0.91; expected 0.97. Grok 4.7: Final answer 0.97: right.
Job by job, the widest gaps first
Data analysis: Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 4 of 5 and Grok 4.7 5 of 5. Gemini 3.8 Flash answered 1.7× sooner at the median, 5.4 s against 8.9 s. Gemini 3.8 Flash cost 4.0× less, $0.0138 against $0.0556 for the 5 replies. Gemini 3.8 Flash's replies ran 252% longer, in tokens of reply, thinking not counted.
Coding: Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 5 of 5 and Grok 4.7 5 of 5. Gemini 3.8 Flash answered 7.5× sooner at the median, 4.2 s against 31.6 s. Gemini 3.8 Flash cost 12.6× less, $0.0098 against $0.1229 for the 5 replies. Gemini 3.8 Flash's replies ran 43% longer, in tokens of reply, thinking not counted.
Translation: Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 5 of 5 and Grok 4.7 5 of 5. Gemini 3.8 Flash answered 3.6× sooner at the median, 3.0 s against 10.7 s. Gemini 3.8 Flash cost 11.0× less, $0.0037 against $0.0410 for the 5 replies. Gemini 3.8 Flash's replies ran 16% longer, in tokens of reply, thinking not counted.
SQL: Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 5 of 5 and Grok 4.7 5 of 5. Grok 4.7 answered 1.2× sooner at the median, 3.7 s against 3.0 s. Gemini 3.8 Flash cost 6.5× less, $0.0037 against $0.0240 for the 5 replies. Gemini 3.8 Flash's replies ran 27% longer, in tokens of reply, thinking not counted.
Math: Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 5 of 5 and Grok 4.7 5 of 5. Gemini 3.8 Flash answered 2.5× sooner at the median, 4.7 s against 11.7 s. Gemini 3.8 Flash cost 5.1× less, $0.0071 against $0.0362 for the 5 replies. Gemini 3.8 Flash's replies ran 17% longer, in tokens of reply, thinking not counted.
Agents and tool use: Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 5 of 5 and Grok 4.7 5 of 5. Gemini 3.8 Flash answered 1.2× sooner at the median, 4.4 s against 5.2 s. Gemini 3.8 Flash cost 4.5× less, $0.0043 against $0.0197 for the 5 replies. Their replies ran to about the same length.
RAG and answering from documents: Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 5 of 5 and Grok 4.7 5 of 5. Grok 4.7 answered 1.6× sooner at the median, 3.1 s against 1.9 s. Gemini 3.8 Flash cost 4.4× less, $0.0033 against $0.0146 for the 5 replies. Gemini 3.8 Flash's replies ran 74% longer, in tokens of reply, thinking not counted.
Writing: Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 3 of 5 and Grok 4.7 3 of 5. Gemini 3.8 Flash answered 1.5× sooner at the median, 3.9 s against 6.0 s. Gemini 3.8 Flash cost 4.4× less, $0.0066 against $0.0288 for the 5 replies. Gemini 3.8 Flash's replies ran 17% longer, in tokens of reply, thinking not counted.
Summarization: Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 5 of 5 and Grok 4.7 5 of 5. Grok 4.7 answered 1.3× sooner at the median, 3.7 s against 2.8 s. Gemini 3.8 Flash cost 3.7× less, $0.0038 against $0.0141 for the 5 replies. Gemini 3.8 Flash's replies ran 11% longer, in tokens of reply, thinking not counted.
Customer support: Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 4 of 5 and Grok 4.7 4 of 5. Gemini 3.8 Flash answered 3.2× sooner at the median, 3.7 s against 11.6 s. Gemini 3.8 Flash cost 3.7× less, $0.0082 against $0.0306 for the 5 replies. Gemini 3.8 Flash's replies ran 26% longer, in tokens of reply, thinking not counted.
All 50 prompts: who passed, who answered sooner, who cost less
| Prompt | Result | Sooner | Cheaper |
|---|---|---|---|
| Turn a title into a URL slug | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.4×took 4.2 s and 14.3 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 9.0×cost $0.0009 and $0.0078 |
| Parse a duration like “1h 30m” | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 13.7×took 2.3 s and 31.6 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 16.1×cost $0.0010 and $0.0167 |
| Merge overlapping intervals | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 1.6×took 3.8 s and 6.1 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.7×cost $0.0012 and $0.0045 |
| Evaluate an arithmetic expression, no eval | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 16.3×took 6.7 s and 110.1 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 12.9×cost $0.0045 and $0.0574 |
| Parse CSV with quoted fields | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 14.5×took 5.0 s and 72.2 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 16.7×cost $0.0022 and $0.0364 |
| Announce a second bakery shop on LinkedIn | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.1×took 3.9 s and 16.1 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 10.1×cost $0.0009 and $0.0093 |
| Rewrite corporate jargon in plain words | Neither passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 6.4×took 3.1 s and 20.0 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 17.5×cost $0.0006 and $0.0112 |
| Decline a meeting and offer two times | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 1.4×took 3.5 s and 2.5 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.1×cost $0.0008 and $0.0024 |
| A product announcement with five rules | Only Grok 4.7 | Grok 4.7, 3.1×took 7.6 s and 2.5 s | Grok 4.7, 1.3×cost $0.0031 and $0.0025 |
| Argue both sides of free buses | Only Gemini 3.8 Flash | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 1.1×took 5.2 s and 6.0 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.0×cost $0.0011 and $0.0034 |
| A discount, then sales tax | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 1.9×took 2.5 s and 4.8 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 5.0×cost $0.0007 and $0.0033 |
| Pens at 3 for $4 | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.9×took 4.7 s and 18.5 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 6.7×cost $0.0017 and $0.0111 |
| Compound interest over three years | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.8×took 2.1 s and 8.0 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 5.8×cost $0.0009 and $0.0051 |
| Four-digit numbers whose digits sum to 9 | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.2×took 4.7 s and 15.1 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.3×cost $0.0022 and $0.0093 |
| The highest of three dice is a 5 | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 2.4×took 4.9 s and 11.7 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.1×cost $0.0018 and $0.0074 |
| An article in three bullets | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 1.4×took 3.7 s and 2.6 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.4×cost $0.0007 and $0.0025 |
| An email thread in one sentence | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 1.4×took 3.8 s and 2.8 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.0×cost $0.0005 and $0.0021 |
| Decisions and action items from a meeting | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 1.6×took 3.2 s and 5.3 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.9×cost $0.0009 and $0.0036 |
| A quarterly memo for the CEO | Both passed | Closetook 4.0 s and 4.0 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.9×cost $0.0009 and $0.0035 |
| A study with a negative result | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 1.3×took 3.6 s and 2.8 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.6×cost $0.0007 and $0.0024 |
| The region with the most revenue | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 1.2×took 7.4 s and 8.9 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 1.8×cost $0.0038 and $0.0067 |
| Average order value in August | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 2.1×took 4.4 s and 9.1 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.5×cost $0.0016 and $0.0072 |
| Revenue change from July to August | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 1.2×took 6.6 s and 7.7 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 2.0×cost $0.0037 and $0.0074 |
| A median, filtered two ways | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 1.3×took 3.5 s and 4.4 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.5×cost $0.0010 and $0.0037 |
| Correlation between ad spend and sign-ups | Only Grok 4.7 | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 9.4×took 5.4 s and 50.5 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 8.3×cost $0.0037 and $0.0306 |
| A late order | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 5.6×took 3.1 s and 17.5 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 9.1×cost $0.0009 and $0.0084 |
| A return inside the window | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 1.6×took 2.9 s and 4.8 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.5×cost $0.0009 and $0.0039 |
| A frustrated customer | Neither passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.2×took 3.7 s and 11.6 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 6.9×cost $0.0011 and $0.0075 |
| A refund request outside the window | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 1.6×took 5.9 s and 3.6 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 1.2×cost $0.0029 and $0.0034 |
| A message with a planted instruction | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 1.6×took 7.3 s and 11.7 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.0×cost $0.0025 and $0.0075 |
| A delivery message into Spanish | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 2.8×took 3.7 s and 10.2 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 8.6×cost $0.0008 and $0.0068 |
| A product description into French | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 7.2×took 2.2 s and 15.7 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 12.6×cost $0.0008 and $0.0095 |
| A meeting note into German | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 7.5×took 3.0 s and 22.4 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 19.2×cost $0.0006 and $0.0121 |
| Idioms into natural Japanese | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 2.3×took 4.7 s and 10.7 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 8.0×cost $0.0008 and $0.0062 |
| A lease clause into Brazilian Portuguese | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.8×took 2.0 s and 9.8 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 8.1×cost $0.0008 and $0.0064 |
| Customers in one country | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 2.0×took 3.1 s and 1.5 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.6×cost $0.0005 and $0.0022 |
| Count orders by status | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 2.9×took 3.7 s and 1.3 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.6×cost $0.0005 and $0.0021 |
| Revenue by category | Both passed | Closetook 3.0 s and 3.0 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.3×cost $0.0008 and $0.0032 |
| Every customer, even those without orders | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 2.8×took 3.7 s and 10.3 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 9.1×cost $0.0008 and $0.0072 |
| Monthly revenue with a running total | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.1×took 4.7 s and 14.3 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 7.6×cost $0.0012 and $0.0093 |
| A fact from one section | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 1.9×took 3.1 s and 1.6 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.5×cost $0.0006 and $0.0026 |
| Core hours and start times | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 1.5×took 2.9 s and 1.9 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.3×cost $0.0006 and $0.0028 |
| Two sections in one answer | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 1.6×took 3.1 s and 2.0 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.4×cost $0.0006 and $0.0029 |
| A later amendment changes the answer | Both passed | Closetook 4.1 s and 4.4 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.2×cost $0.0009 and $0.0037 |
| A question the handbook doesn't answer | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 1.6×took 2.9 s and 1.9 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.8×cost $0.0006 and $0.0026 |
| Pick the tool and work out the date | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 2.7×took 1.9 s and 5.2 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.5×cost $0.0005 and $0.0023 |
| Convert a currency | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 2.2×took 4.4 s and 1.9 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 3.1×cost $0.0008 and $0.0024 |
| Book a meeting from a sentence | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 2.3×took 6.3 s and 14.7 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 7.0×cost $0.0012 and $0.0085 |
| Search, but don't book | Both passed | Grok 4.7, 1.9×took 6.3 s and 3.4 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 2.6×cost $0.0009 and $0.0023 |
| Two calls with a unit conversion | Both passed | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 1.3×took 3.9 s and 5.2 s | Gemini 3.8 Flash, 4.4×cost $0.0010 and $0.0043 |
Gemini 3.8 Flash vs Grok 4.7 in our test runs
Gemini 3.8 Flash and Grok 4.7 on the same prompts, job by job: how many replies passed their check.
Based on 100 of our test runs on , through OpenRouter with the app's own prompt and settings. Updated .
| Job | Gemini 3.8 Flash | Grok 4.7 |
|---|---|---|
| Coding | 5 of 5 | 5 of 5 |
| Writing | 3 of 5 | 3 of 5 |
| Math | 5 of 5 | 5 of 5 |
| Summarization | 5 of 5 | 5 of 5 |
| Data analysis | 4 of 5 | 5 of 5 |
| Customer support | 4 of 5 | 4 of 5 |
| Translation | 5 of 5 | 5 of 5 |
| SQL | 5 of 5 | 5 of 5 |
| RAG and answering from documents | 5 of 5 | 5 of 5 |
| Agents and tool use | 5 of 5 | 5 of 5 |
| All jobs | 46 of 50 · 1 message each · $0.0013 a reply | 47 of 50 · 1 message each · $0.0077 a reply |
The same prompts, sent to both through llmwise's own pipeline and checked the same way: five for each job. A bold count is the one that passed more. Messages: what each reply counted as on Pro. Cost: what OpenRouter charged us per reply, on average. Every prompt, and how it's scored.
Where they differed most, data analysis: both replies to a prompt only one of them passed.
A hard prompt: “Correlation between ad spend and sign-ups”, in full.
Gemini 3.8 Flash
Failed: Final answer 0.91; expected 0.97.
Let $x$ represent `ad_spend` and $y$ represent `signups`. The number of data points is $n = 8$. **Data:** - $x = [500, 800, 650, 1200, 900, 300, 1100, 700]$ - $y = [42, 55, 49, 71, 60, 35, 64, 58]$ **Summary Calculations:** - $\sum x = 500 + 800 + 650 + 1200 + 900 + 300 + 1100 + 700 = 6150$ - $\sum y = 42 + 55 + 49 + 71 + 60 + 35 + 64 + 58 = 434$ - $\sum x^2 = 500^2 + 800^2 + 650^2 + 1200^2 + 900^2 + 300^2 + 1100^2 + 700^2 = 5,342,500$ - $\sum y^2 = 42^2 + 55^2 + 49^2 + 71^2 + 60^2 + 35^2 + 64^2 + 58^2 = 24,676$ - $\sum xy = (500)(42) + (800)(55) + (650)(49) + (1200)(71) + (900)(60) + (300)(35) + (1100)(64) + (700)(58)$ $= 21,000 + 44,000 + 31,850 + 85,200 + 54,000 + 10,500 + 70,400 + 40,600 = 357,550$ **Pearson Correlation Formula:** $$r = \frac{n\sum xy - (\sum x)(\sum y)}{\sqrt{[n\sum x^2 - (\sum x)^2][n\sum y^2 - (\sum y)^2]}}$$ - **Numerator:** $8(357,550) - (6150)(434) = 2,860,400 - 2,669,100 = 191,300$ - **Denominator:** $n\sum x^2 - (\sum x)^2 = 8(5,342,500) - 6150^2 = 42,740,000 - 37,822,500 = 4,917,500$ $n\sum y^2 - (\sum y)^2 = 8(24,676) - 434^2 = 197,408 - 188,356 = 9,052$ $\sqrt{4,917,500 \times 9,052} = \sqrt{44,513,210,000} \approx 210,981.54$ - **Correlation ($r$):** $r = \frac{191,300}{210,981.54} \approx 0.9067 \approx 0.91$ Final answer: 0.91505 tokens in, 887 out · 5.4 s · $0.0037 · 1 message on Pro · answered by google/gemini-3.8-flash via Google ·
Grok 4.7
Passed: Final answer 0.97: right.
Pearson r uses \[ r=\frac{n\sum xy-\sum x\sum y}{\sqrt{[n\sum x^2-(\sum x)^2][n\sum y^2-(\sum y)^2]}} \] with \(n=8\), \(x=\) ad_spend, \(y=\) signups. \(\sum x=6150\), \(\sum y=434\), \(\sum xy=357550\), \(\sum x^2=5352500\), \(\sum y^2=24516\). Numerator: \(8\cdot357550-6150\cdot434=191300\). Denominator parts: \(8\cdot5352500-6150^2=4997500\), \(8\cdot24516-434^2=7772\). \(\sqrt{4997500\cdot7772}\approx197080.11\). \(r=191300/197080.11\approx0.9707\), which rounds to \(0.97\). Final answer: 0.971,687 tokens in, 4,825 out (4,601 of them reasoning) · 50.5 s · $0.0306 · 1 message on Pro · answered by x-ai/grok-4.7 via xAI ·
Gemini 3.8 Flash and Grok 4.7 on every plan
Whether the one-time free trial reaches each model, then each paid plan's messages on it.
| Plan | Price | Gemini 3.8 Flash | Grok 4.7 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Free | $0 | Not in the trial | Not in the trial |
| Plus | $10 a month | Up to 125 a month | Up to 125 a month |
| Pro | $20 a month | Up to 250 a month | Up to 250 a month |
| Max | $50 a month | Up to 800 a month | Up to 800 a month |
| Ultra | $100 a month | Up to 1,800 a month | Up to 1,800 a month |
| Studio | $200 a month | Up to 4,000 a month | Up to 4,000 a month |
Prices don't include tax, which is added where it applies and shown before you pay. A paid plan's month is one allowance shared by every model, so each monthly count is the most you get if all of it goes to that model. It renews each billing period; everyday models refill daily at 00:00 UTC. Long chats count more per reply. How pricing works.
Every limit is published. Paid plans also have a monthly fair-use limit on AI cost: Plus $3.75, Pro $7.50, Max $20, Ultra $42, Studio $85. Using every message on your plan at typical sizes stays under it; very large messages and heavy research use it faster. Every limit, explained.
What differs
Messages on Pro
They cost the same in llmwise: up to 250 messages a month on Pro on either.
Context window
Gemini 3.8 Flash takes up to 1.05M tokens; Grok 4.7 up to 500K tokens. A chat in llmwise holds up to 200k tokens, which fits in either, so the difference shows only through each maker's own API.
Images and PDFs
Both read images. Both take a PDF as the whole file, pages and all.
On Free
Neither is in the free trial: both need a paid plan, from Plus.
Where messages go
Gemini 3.8 Flash: Sent to Google directly. Grok 4.7: Served through OpenRouter by xAI alone, on an endpoint that doesn't store or train on prompts.
Fact by fact
| Fact | Gemini 3.8 Flash | Grok 4.7 |
|---|---|---|
| Context window | 1.05M tokens | 500K tokens |
| Reads images | Yes | Yes |
| PDFs | Whole file | Whole file |
| Reasoning | Yes | Yes |
| API price (October 2026) | $0.75 in / $3.75 out per million tokens | $2.00 in / $6.00 out per million tokens |
| A typical message at API prices (4,000 tokens in, 700 out) | $0.0056 | $0.0122 |
| A $10 top-up adds | 200 messages | 200 messages |
| Where a message goes | Sent to Google directly. | Served through OpenRouter by xAI alone, on an endpoint that doesn't store or train on prompts. |
| If the provider fails | If Google fails before the reply starts (an overload, a server error, a dropped connection), llmwise sends the same request to Gemini 3.8 Flash through OpenRouter instead. | xAI is its only host, so there's no other host to move to: if xAI fails, send the message again or pick another model. |
| Anthropic's safety fallback | Doesn't apply | Doesn't apply |
Gemini 3.8 Flash or Grok 4.7?
From the facts above and our test runs: the rest is how their answers suit your work, which one chat can show you.
Pick Gemini 3.8 Flash: it costs its maker less to run ($0.0056 a typical message at API prices), though in llmwise the count is the same.
Each model's page, the families, and other pairs
Gemini 3.8 Flash vs Grok 4.7 is one pair of models. The page below covers the whole families.
- Gemini 3.8 Flash: price, limits and messages on every plan
- Grok 4.7: price, limits and messages on every plan
- Gemini vs Grok
- Gemini 3.8 Flash vs DeepSeek V4.1 Flash
- Claude Sonnet 5 vs Gemini 3.8 Flash
- Claude Haiku 4.5 vs Gemini 3.8 Flash
- Claude Fable 5.1 vs Grok 4.7
- GPT-6 Astra vs Grok 4.7
- Claude Sonnet 5 vs Grok 4.7
- Every model-vs-model page
Gemini 3.8 Flash is a Gemini model; Grok 4.7 is a Grok model.
Questions
Is Gemini 3.8 Flash or Grok 4.7 cheaper in llmwise?
They cost the same in llmwise: up to 250 messages a month on Pro on either. Every paid plan's monthly allowance is shared by the models on it, so each count is the most you get if it all goes to that model.
Can I try Gemini 3.8 Flash and Grok 4.7 for free?
Neither is in the free trial of 5 messages: both need a paid plan, from Plus.
Which has the bigger context window, Gemini 3.8 Flash or Grok 4.7?
Gemini 3.8 Flash: 1.05M tokens, against 500K tokens. A chat in llmwise holds up to 200k tokens, which fits in either, so the difference shows only through each maker's own API.
Can I use Gemini 3.8 Flash and Grok 4.7 in the same chat?
Yes. Pick Gemini 3.8 Flash for one message and Grok 4.7 for the next; the second sees the whole chat, including the first one's answer.
Which did better in your test runs, Gemini 3.8 Flash or Grok 4.7?
On the same 50 prompts, run on October 2, 2026, Gemini 3.8 Flash passed 46 and Grok 4.7 passed 47. The table on this page has each job, and every reply is published.
Claude, GPT, Gemini, DeepSeek, Grok, Kimi, GLM, and Mistral, in one chat.
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