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ChatGPT Plus vs Poe: price, limits and newest models
ChatGPT Plus and Poe side by side, each in its company's own words and checked September 28, 2026: what each costs, what each says about its limits, and which of the newest models each chat has.
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Short answer
ChatGPT Plus costs $20 a month and Poe's matching plan $19.99, for 660 thousand points a month. Neither says how many messages you get: Plus publishes no count, and Poe's points buy each bot a different amount. Poe has GPT-6-Astra; Plus has Astra only in Work and Codex. llmwise Pro ($20) has up to 31 Astra messages a month.
Sources: OpenAI Help Center: What is ChatGPT Plus?, OpenAI Help Center: Managing usage with GPT-6 Astra in Work and Codex, ChatGPT pricing, OpenAI: Introducing GPT-6 Sol and Luna and Poe subscription plans, checked .
ChatGPT Plus vs Poe, side by side
Each company's figures, checked September 28, 2026; the quotes behind them are on each plan's page.
| ChatGPT Plus | Poe | |
|---|---|---|
| Price a month | $20 | $19.99 |
| Billed yearly | Monthly only | $16.67 a month |
| In India | Not published | Not published |
| Limits, in brief | No fixed count; an estimated 5–45 GPT-6 Astra messages every 5 hours, in Work and Codex | Points, not messages: no points per message published |
| Newest models | GPT-6 Astra: not in its chat; GPT-6 Sol: not in its chat; GPT-6 Luna: not in its chat | GPT-6-Astra: in its chat; Claude-Fable-5.1: in its chat; Claude-Opus-5.5: in its chat; Grok-4.7: in its chat; Kimi-K3: in its chat |
| Also in the plan | “Expanded Codex usage” (ChatGPT pricing) | “thousands of others, all on Poe” (Poe subscription plans) |
What OpenAI and Poe say about the limits
“To ensure a smooth experience for all users, Plus subscriptions may include usage limits such as message caps, especially during high demand. These limits may vary based on system conditions.”
“660 thousand points/month”
Source: Poe subscription plans
ChatGPT Plus or Poe: which to pick
Mostly GPT, with tools
ChatGPT Plus: one company's models, with voice, Codex and ChatGPT Work.
Many bots and video
Poe: thousands of community bots and video models, paid in points.
Counting in messages
llmwise: the newest flagships with a count in messages, not points.
Both in one: llmwise Pro
llmwise Pro ($20) beside both plans, model by model: each count is the most you get if the month goes to that model.
| Model | ChatGPT Plus | Poe | llmwise Pro |
|---|---|---|---|
| GPT-6 Astra | In Work and Codex only: an estimated 5–45 every 5 hours | On Poe, for points; the plans page gives no points per message | Up to 31 a month |
| GPT-6 Sol | In Work and Codex; not in Chat yet | Not offered | Up to 125 a month |
| Claude Fable 5.1 | Not offered: GPT only | On Poe, for points; the plans page gives no points per message | Up to 31 a month |
| Claude Opus 5.5 | Not offered: GPT only | On Poe, for points; the plans page gives no points per message | Up to 62 a month |
| Grok 4.7 | Not offered: GPT only | On Poe, for points; the plans page gives no points per message | Up to 250 a month |
| Kimi K3 | Not offered: GPT only | On Poe, for points; the plans page gives no points per message | Up to 125 a month |
Every limit is published. Paid plans also have a monthly fair-use limit on AI cost: Pro $7.50, Max $20, Ultra $42, Studio $85. Using every message on your plan at typical sizes stays under it; very large messages and heavy research use it faster. Every limit, explained.
Each plan on its own, and more pairs
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- ChatGPT Go vs ChatGPT Plus
- ChatGPT's free plan vs ChatGPT Plus
- ChatGPT Plus vs Google AI Pro
- ChatGPT Plus vs SuperGrok
- ChatGPT Plus vs Perplexity Pro
Questions
Does Poe have more models than ChatGPT Plus?
Poe's plans page lists GPT-6-Astra and Claude-Fable-5.1 among its bots, for points; ChatGPT Plus is OpenAI's models only. llmwise Pro ($20) has both, each counted.
How far do Poe's points go?
Poe's plans page doesn't convert points to messages; each bot costs its own number of points.
Claude, GPT, Gemini, DeepSeek, Grok, Kimi, and GLM, in one chat.
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